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Wed 25 Nov 09 | From: Barry O’Farrell MP | Re: Stop the Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation (NSW) AHFA Petition (reply 2)

Posted by bradfieldresident on 25 November 2009

[This letter is in response to an email sent for the Stop the Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation (NSW) petition on the Health Petitions Australia website. Postal mail dated “25 November 2009”, refers to Barry’s 25 Setpember letter, and included the 19 November letter from Carmel Tebbutt MP.]

Barry O’Farrell MP
State Member for Ku-ring-gai

Letter from Barry O'Farrell MP (2009-11-25)

25 November 2009

Dear […]

I refer back to my letter of  25 September regarding immunisation.

I have received a response form the Minister for Health and a copy is attached.

I hope that the information is of assistance.

Yours sincerely


Barry O’Farrell

Working for our community

Phone 9487 8588 Fax 9487 8550 Electorate office 27 Redleaf Avenue, Wahroonga NSW 2076 Email Website

Posted in Health Petitions Australia, Mail Received, NSW Government, NSW Health, State MPs, Vaccines | Tagged: , | 1 Comment »

Thu 19 Nov 09 | From: Carmel Tebbutt MP to Barry O’Farrell MP | Re: Stop the Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation (NSW) AHFA Petition

Posted by bradfieldresident on 19 November 2009

[This letter was forwarded by Barry O’Farrel MP with his 25 November letter in response to an email sent for the Stop the Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation (NSW) petition on the Health Petitions Australia website.]

Carmel Tebbutt MP
Deputy Premier | Minister for Health

Letter from Carmel Tebbutt MP to Barry O'Farrell MP (2009-11-19)

19 NOV 2009

Mr B O’Farrell MP
Member for Ku-ring-gai
27 Redleaf Avenue


Dear Mr O’Farrell,

Thank you for your representations on behalf of […], […], concerning immunisation.

The petition submitted by […] raises concerns about NSW Health Policy Directive PD2007_006 Occupational assessment, screening and vaccination against specified infectious diseases. Health facilities have a duty of care under occupational health and safety legislation to protect their staff, patients and other users of the health system from the risk of preventable illness, injury or death. I am advised that this policy directive provides a safe environment for staff and patients within NSW Health facilities by promoting vaccination against a number of vaccine-preventable infectious diseases.

I am advised that, under the Policy Directive, health care workers who are existing staff are encouraged to provide evidence of their protection against the specified diseases and are to receive vaccination where they are not already protected against a disease. New recruits and health care students are required to provide evidence of their protection against the specified diseases before they commence work in a clinical area or before they commence their student clinical placements. This is to ensure that they are not placed at risk of acquiring or transmitting one of the infectious diseases when they commence in the workplace.

The petition then raises a number of concerns about immunisation of infants and children. These arguments have been previously raised by individuals and organisations that are concerned about immunisation. The Australian Government has published a booklet to provide balanced, evidence-based answers to these concerns. The booklet, immunisation myths and realities: responding to arguments against immunisation, 4th edition, is available to order or download from:

Thank you for bringing […]’s issues to my attention. Should […] require further information, please ask him to contact Su Reid, Senior Policy Officer, Immunisation Unit, NSW Department of Health, on (02) 9391 9210.

Yours sincerely


Carmel Tebbutt MP
Deputy Premier
Minister for Health

Level 30, Governor Macquarie Tower | 1 Farrer Place Sydney NSW 2000 | p 9228 4866 | f 9228 4855


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Tue 29 Sep 09 | From: Jillian Skinner MP | Re: Stop the Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation (NSW) AHFA Petition

Posted by bradfieldresident on 29 September 2009

[This letter is in response to an email sent for the Stop the Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation (NSW) petition on the Health Petitions Australia website. Postal mail dated “29 SEP 2009”]

Jillian Skinner MP
Member for North Shore
Deputy NSW Opposition Leader
Shadow Minister for Health

Letter from Jillian Skinner MP (2009-09-29)

Letter from Jillian Skinner MP (2009-09-29)

29 September 2009

Dear […]

Thank you for your email outlining your concerns about the mandatory immunisation of health workers.

I have reviewed numerous scientific studies into vaccination and have consulted with many groups and individuals, so I do understand that vaccination is an issue that attracts strong views on both sides.

However, on balance, I believe that there is great value in the effectiveness of vaccines in preventing potentially deadly illnesses, and that it is imperative that health workers are vaccinated to protect both themselves and their patients.

Thank you again for contacting me about this very important issue.

Yours sincerely


Jillian Skinner MP

Electorate office 3/40 Yeo Street, Neutral Bay 2089 Phone 9909 2594 Fax 9909 2654
Parliamentary Office Parliament House, Macquarie Street, Sydney 2000 Phone 9230 3080 Fax 9230 3406
Email Website

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Fri 25 Sep 09 | From: Barry O’Farrell MP | Re: Stop the Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation (NSW) AHFA Petition

Posted by bradfieldresident on 25 September 2009

[This letter is in response to an email sent for the Stop the Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation (NSW) petition on the Health Petitions Australia website. Postal mail dated “25 September 2009”]

Barry O’Farrell MP
State Member for Ku-ring-gai

Letter from Barry O'Farrell MP (2009-09-25)

Letter from Barry O'Farrell MP (2009-09-25)

25 September 2009

Dear […]

Thank you for your email of 11 September 2009 concerning immunisation.

At the outset I have to indicate my own support for immunisation. Using the “precautionary principle” you refer to, allowing some infants and children to avoid immunisation can threaten the health of the mast majority.

Nevertheless, respecting your views and wishes, I have made representations to the State Health Minister, the Hon Carmel Tebbutt. I will keep you informed of the progress.

Yours sincerely


Barry O’Farrell

Working for our community

Phone 9487 8588 Fax 9487 8550 Electorate office 27 Redleaf Avenue, Wahroonga NSW 2076 Email Website

Posted in Health Petitions Australia, Mail Received, NSW Government, NSW Health, State MPs, Vaccines | Tagged: , | 1 Comment »

Fri 04 Sep | To: Members of Federal Parliament | Do Not Introduce Mandatory Swine Flu Vaccination AFHA Petition

Posted by bradfieldresident on 4 September 2009

[This is a copy of the email sent for the Mandatory Swine Flu Vaccination (Federal Parliament) petition on the Health Petitions Australia website, copied from a Member’s response.]

From: [name, email]
Sent: Friday, 4 September 2009 10:49 AM
To: Abbott, Tony (MP); Adams, Dick (MP); Albanese, Anthony (MP); Andrews, Kevin (MP); Bailey, Fran (MP); Baldwin, Bob (MP); Bevis, Arch (MP); Bidgood, James (MP); Billson, Bruce (MP); Bird, Sharon (MP); Bishop, Bronwyn (MP); Bishop, Julie (MP); Bowen, Chris (MP); Bradbury, David (MP); Briggs, Jamie (MP); Broadbent, Russell (MP); Burke, Anna (MP); Burke, Tony (MP); Butler, Mark (MP); Byrne, Anthony (MP); Campbell, Jodie (MP); Champion, Nick (MP); Cheeseman, Darren (MP); Chester, Darren (MP); Ciobo, Steven (MP); Clare, Jason (MP); Cobb, John (MP); Collins, Julie (MP); Combet, Greg (MP); Higgins Electorate (P. Costello, MP); Coulton, Mark (MP); Crean, Simon (MP); Danby, Michael (MP); D’Ath, Yvette (MP); Debus, Bob (MP); Dreyfus, Mark (MP); Dutton, Peter (MP); Elliot, Justine (MP); Ellis, Annette (MP); Ellis, Kate (MP); Emerson, Craig (MP); Farmer, Pat (MP); Ferguson, Laurie (MP); Ferguson, Martin (MP); Fitzgibbon, Joel (MP); Forrest, John (MP); Garrett, Peter (MP); Gash, Joanna (MP); Georganas, Steve (MP); George, Jennie (MP); Georgiou, Petro (MP); Gibbons, Steve (MP); Gillard, Julia (MP); Gray, Gary (MP); Grierson, Sharon (MP); Griffin, Alan (MP); Haase, Barry (MP); Hale, Damian (MP); Hall, Jill (MP); Hartsuyker, Luke (MP); Hawke, Alex (MP); Hawker, David (MP); Hayes, Chris (MP); Hockey, Joe (MP); Hull, Kay (MP); Hunt, Greg (MP); Irons, Steve (MP); Irwin, Julia (MP); Jackson, Sharryn (MP); Jenkins, Harry (MP); Jensen, Dennis (MP);;; Katter, Robert (MP); Keenan, Michael (MP); Kelly, Mike (MP); Kerr, Duncan (MP); King, Catherine (MP); Laming, Andrew (MP); Ley, Sussan (MP); Lindsay, Peter (MP); Livermore, Kirsten (MP); Macfarlane, Ian (MP); Macklin, Jennifer (MP); Marino, Nola (MP); Markus, Louise (MP); Marles, Richard (MP); May, Margaret (MP); McClelland, Robert (MP); McKew, Maxine (MP); McMullan, Robert (MP); Melham, Daryl (MP); Mirabella, Sophie (MP); Morrison, Scott (MP); Moylan, Judith (MP); Murphy, John (MP); Neal, Belinda (MP); Nelson, Brendan (MP); Neumann, Shayne (MP); Neville, Paul (MP); Oakeshott, Robert (MP); O’Connor, Brendan (MP); Owens, Julie (MP); Parke, Melissa (MP); Pearce, Chris (MP); Perrett, Graham (MP); Plibersek, Tanya (MP); Price, Roger (MP); Pyne, Chris (MP); Raguse, Brett (MP); Ramsey, Rowan (MP); Randall, Don (MP); Rea, Kerry MP (Constituents); Ripoll, Bernie (MP); Rishworth, Amanda (MP); Robb, Andrew (MP); Robert, Stuart (MP); Roxon, Nicola (MP); Ruddock, Philip (MP); Saffin, Janelle (MP); Schultz, Alby (MP); Scott, Bruce (MP); Secker, Patrick (MP); Shorten, Bill (MP); Sidebottom, Sid (MP); Simpkins, Luke (MP); Slipper, Peter (MP); Smith, Tony (MP); Smith, Stephen (MP); Snowdon, Warren (MP); Somlyay, Alex (MP); Southcott, Andrew (MP); Stone, Sharman (MP); Sullivan, Jon (MP); Swan, Wayne (MP); Symon, Mike (MP); Tanner, Lindsay (MP); Thomson, Craig (MP); Thomson, Kelvin (MP); Trevor, Chris (MP); Truss, Warren (MP); Tuckey, Wilson (MP); Turnbull, Malcolm (MP);;; Vale, Danna (MP); Vamvakinou, Maria (MP); Washer, Mal (MP); Windsor, Tony (MP); Wood, Jason (MP); Zappia, Tony (MP);
Subject: Do Not Introduce Mandatory Swine Flu Vaccination

Dear Member of Parliament,

I wish to express my concern to you with regard to mass vaccination of the Australian public for swine flu, using a vaccine with no long term studies yet potential for dangerous side effects.

There is much talk amongst politicians, medical associations and the media with regards to making this swine flu vaccine mandatory. I do not consent to mandatory vaccination and I wish to point out that my right to do so is protected under informed consent laws relative to each Australian States criminal Acts.

I am very informed as to the risk benefit ratio and the risks far out weigh the perceived benefits.

To put things into perspective, malaria kills 3,000 people every day, and it’s considered “a health problem”… But of course, there are no fancy vaccines for malaria that can rake in billions of dollars for drug companies in a short amount of time. For example; Chinese scientists have already found the cure for malaria yet it is not a drug that can be patented by big corporate money.

But getting back to the H1N1 issue, one Australian news source, for example, states that even a mild swine flu epidemic could lead to the deaths of 1.4 million people and would reduce economic growth by nearly $5 trillion dollars (,23599,25392380-2,00.html ).

This sounds like the outlandish cries of the pandemic bird-flu, when President Bush said two million Americans would die as a result of the bird flu! Where is the Bird Flu now?

As of August 28th 2009 (update 63) ( ), there have been 2185 deaths world wide from H1N1. Compared to seasonal flu, this does not constitute a pandemic let alone justify mandatory mass vaccination with a vaccine that will have dangerous side effects and little proof of efficacy.

Approximately 36 thousand Americans die from seasonal flu every year, 200 thousand are hospitalised. Between 250 – 500 thousand people die from seasonal flu world wide, also resulting in three to five million cases of severe illness. The world wide 2185 deaths from H1N1 virus, does not constitute a pandemic yet alone grounds to begin mandatory vaccination of the Australian public.

Just a couple of months ago, scientists concluded that the 1918 flu pandemic that killed between 50-100 million people worldwide in a matter of 18 months — which all these worst case scenarios are built upon — was NOT due to the flu itself!

Tami Flu vaccine, used against seasonal flu, does not work effectively and is not a safe drug. Serious side effects include convulsions, delirium or delusions, and 12 deaths in children and teens as a result of neuropsychiatric problems and brain infections Japan actually banned Tami flu for children in 2007.

In 2007, the FDA in the USA finally began investigating some 1,800 adverse event reports related to the drug.

In fact the Tami Flu vaccine has been found to be almost useless < The risk and dangers compared to perceived benefits of Tami flu are great.

Recently a confidential letter from the United Kingdom Health Protection Agency was sent to about 600 neurologists alerting them to watch for an increase in Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS) as a result of the swine flu vaccination. GBS can be fatal as it attacks the nerve lining, causing paralysis and suffocation – as those affected are unable to breath.

The UK Daily Mail reported on the July 29 letter and pointed to a similar U.S. swine flu vaccination used in 1976 when:

* “More people died from the vaccination than from swine flu (25 deaths);
* 500 cases of GBS were detected;
* the vaccine may have increased the risk of contracting GBS by eight times;
* the vaccine was withdrawn after just 10 weeks when the link with GBS became clear;
* The U.S. government was forced to pay out 1.3 million dollars to those affected.”

So, instead of giving warnings to the people who’ll be vaccinated, secret letters were sent to neurologists to keep track of the number of human guinea pigs who contract the dreadful GBS without knowing the risk.

The dangers of using live attenuated viruses in vaccinations can also lead to an out break in flu, just exactly the opposite of what the vaccine was made for. It can actually spread the virus rather than cure it.

The vaccine time below helps illustrates my points.

Vaccine history

• In the USA in 1960, two virologists discovered that both polio vaccines were contaminated with the SV 40 virus which causes cancer in animals as well as changes in human cell tissue cultures. Millions of children had been injected with these vaccines. (Med Jnl of Australia 17/3/1973 p555)

• In 1871-2, England, with 98% of the population aged between 2 and 50 vaccinated against smallpox, it experienced its worst ever smallpox outbreak with 45,000 deaths. During the same period in Germany, with a vaccination rate of 96%, there were over 125,000 deaths from smallpox. ( )
The Hadwen Documents

• In Germany, compulsory mass vaccination against diphtheria commenced in 1940 and by 1945 diphtheria cases were up from 40,000 to 250,000. (Don’t Get Stuck, Hannah Allen)

• In 1967, Ghana was declared measles free by the World Health Organisation after 96% of its population was vaccinated. In 1972, Ghana experienced one of its worst measles outbreaks with its highest ever mortality rate. (Dr H Albonico, MMR Vaccine Campaign in Switzerland, March 1990)

• In 1977, Dr Jonas Salk who developed the first polio vaccine, testified along with other scientists, that mass inoculation against polio was the cause of most polio cases throughout the USA since 1961. (Science 4/4/77 “Abstracts” )

• In the UK between 1970 and 1990, over 200,000 cases of whooping cough occurred in fully vaccinated children. (Community Disease Surveillance Centre, UK)

• In the 1970’s a tuberculosis vaccine trial in India involving 260,000 people revealed that more cases of TB occurred in the vaccinated than the unvaccinated. (The Lancet 12/1/80 p73)

In 1976 mass vaccination of Swine flu begain in the USA. Within a few months, claims totaling $1.3 billion had been filed by victims who had suffered paralysis from the vaccine. The vaccine was also blamed for 25 deaths. However, several hundred people developed crippling Guillain-Barré Syndrome after they were injected with the swine flu vaccine. Even healthy 20-year-olds ended up as paraplegics. And the swine flu pandemic itself? It never materialized. ( )

• In 1978, a survey of 30 States in the US revealed that more than half of the children who contracted measles had been adequately vaccinated. (The People’s Doctor, Dr R Mendelsohn)

• The February 1981 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association found that 90% of obstetricians and 66% of pediatricians refused to take the rubella vaccine.

• In 1979, Sweden abandoned the whooping cough vaccine due to its ineffectiveness. Out of 5,140 cases in 1978, it was found that 84% had been vaccinated three times! (BMJ 283:696-697, 1981)

• In the USA, the cost of a single DPT shot had risen from 11 cents in 1982 to $11.40 in 1987. The manufacturers of the vaccine were putting aside $8 per shot to cover legal costs and damages they were paying out to parents of brain damaged children and children who died after vaccination. (The Vine, Issue 7, January 1994, Nambour, Qld)

Please do not introduce mandatory vaccination upon the Australian people.

Yours sincerely


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Thu 03 Sep 09 | To: Fay Gardner (DoH) | Mercury in the swine flu vaccine – and what else?

Posted by bradfieldresident on 3 September 2009

From: Bradfield Resident <>
Date: Thursday 03 September 2009 16:48 (+10)
Subject: Mercury in the swine flu vaccine – and what else?
To: Ms Fay Gardner <>, Dr Rachel David [CSL Director of Public Affairs]
Cc:, NIR.Incident.Coordinator, NIR.Operations.Manager

Ms Gardner,

one month after issuing questions to your department about the swine flu “pandemic” and the swine flu vaccine, I have still not received answers.

According to video footage of a vial of CSL’s Panvax H1N1 Vaccine seen shown on television last week, the vaccine contains Thiomersal, which is nearly 50% mercury by weight.

What else does the vaccine contain? (See the attached message history for a list of possible contents of interest, including MF59 or squalene)

What is different about this swine flu vaccine in terms of manufacture and testing?

In what way(s), if any, does the WHO pandemic level, and/or equivalent Australian medical emergency status affect the development and usage of the vaccine and the liability that the manufacture will (or will not) face in the case of problems?

To Dr Richard David, if you are able to address these questions (please refer to the message history below), please do.

Bradfield Resident, NSW
Thursday 3 September 2009

Quoted text:
Mon 17 Aug 09 | To: Fay Gardner (DoH) | No answers from Health Ops

Tue 11 Aug 09 | To: Jamie Geysen (DoH) | Re: Questions about Pandemic H1N1 2009 influenza
Tue 04 Aug 09 | From: Jamie Geysen (DoH) | Re: Questions about Pandemic H1N1 2009 influenza
Fri 31 Jul 09 | To: Fay Gardner (DoH) | Questions about Pandemic H1N1 2009 influenza

Posted in CSL Biotherapies, Mail Sent, Office of Health Protection, Pandemic A(H1N1)v 2009, Thimerosal/ Thiomersal/ Thimersol/ Merthiolate, Vaccines, WHO (World Health Organization) | Leave a Comment »

Thu 27 Aug 09 | To: Sunrise, Seven Network | Swine flu safe? on Wednesday morning (26 August 2009)

Posted by bradfieldresident on 27 August 2009

From: Bradfield Resident <>
Date: Thursday 27 August 2009 16:52 (+10)
Subject: Swine flu safe? on Wednesday morning (26 August 2009)
To: Sunrise <>


according to footage shown on Wednesday morning (26 August 2009), the Australian swine flu vaccine manufactured by CSL Biotherapies contains “0.01% w/v Thiomersal, as preservative”. Otherwise known as Thimerosal, Thiomersal is nearly 50% mercury by weight, meaning each 0.5mL dose of the Panvax H1N1 vaccine contains around 25 micrograms of mercury.

Why was that not mentioned in the segment?

Why was it not mentioned that, even if the vaccine itself is safe, that the method of delivery in multi-dose vials has a significant risk-factor attached compared to single-dose packaging?

I have written more at

Bradfield Resident
Thursday 27 August 2009

Bradfield Resident

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Wed 26 Aug 09 | Sunrise (Channel 7) | Swine flu vaccine safe?

Posted by bradfieldresident on 27 August 2009

Sunrise Video Segment

On Wednesday morning there was a segment on Channel 7’s Sunrise program about the swine flu vaccine ordered by the Australian Government. Sunrise host Melissa Doyle spoke with Professor Robert Booy.

Video: Swine flu vaccine safe?

During the segment, there are several clips showing what appears to be the actual vaccine produced by CSL Biotherapies. One of these clips is a closeup of a vial of vaccine, from which can be made out, as the vial is rotated:

Panvax® H1N1 Vaccine (split ..

H1N1 Pandemic influenza
Multi-dose vial

Each 0.5 mL dose contains:
sub-units of A/California/7/2009 (H1N1) …
15 µg haemagglutinin,
0.01% w/v Thiomersal, as preservative

For intramuscular injection

Store at 2°C to 8°C. Do not freeze

10 mL

Interesting details here are that it is a multi-dose vial, and that it contains Thiomersal as a preservative (the agent to counter contamination when the vial is used multiple times for multiple people). Thiomersal, otherwise known as Thimerosal, is about 49.6% mercury by weight, which means each 0.5 mL shot of this vaccine is likely to contain around 25 µg of mercury, or around the amount supposedly found in “8 ounces” (around 220g) of commercially fished fish (see Mercury in Vaccines).

Injecting a substance directly into the bloodstream is certainly different to ingesting that substance, but it is not clear if this small amount of mercury (which apparently metabolises as ethylmercury, not the “more dangerous” methylmercury), on its own, is of particular concern. In the US, children are subjected to a barrage of vaccines – dozens, in fact – so whilst a single dose is perhaps not a lot, one should consider the effects of bioaccumulation of a large number of doses (as well as exposure to mercury from other sources, including food and the environment).

What other potentially (or known-to-be) harmful substances, besides this mercury, is in the vaccine?

Meanwhile, Business Spectator carried a story from Reuters on Tuesday (CSL starts US swine flu vaccine trial), which states

“The clinical trials of CSL’s candidate vaccine will be the first to use a thimerosal-free formulation of the H1N1 vaccine antigen.”

Some people object to the use of thimerosal, which is a mercury-based preservative. US health officials say there is no evidence to support persistent beliefs that thimerosal causes autism, but companies have removed it from most vaccines anyway.

It is possible (if not likely) that, supposing this story is not mistaken about the trial vaccine not containing “thimerosal”, that this particular vaccine is packaged in single-dose vials. It raises the question as to why a no-thimerosal vaccine could not be used for the Australian supply. Of course it is possible that the order fulfillment to both the US and Australia could be different to the vaccine(s) tested in each country – raising an even further risk of the vaccine eventually used being different to the vaccine tested in each location.

Thimerosal was apparently banned in Russia from children’s vaccines nearly 30 years ago, after a Russian study found ethylmercury exposure led to brain damage, and thimerosal is apparently also banned in Denmark, Austria, Great Britain and the Scandanavian countries (source: The great thimerosal cover-up: Mercury, vaccines, autism and your child’s health).

Segment Transcript

(Transcript by Bradfield Resident; report errors/omissions to

Time (indicated on video) at start of segment: 7:12am.

Melissa Doyle: Well is the swine flu vaccine safe? More than half of GP’s surveyed in the UK will refuse it for themselves, because trials have been rushed [1]. Now, our government has ordered 21 million doses of the vaccine. They’ll be given to 4 million at-risk people first, next month. Well so far 132 people have died from swine flu in Australia – that’s compared to 50 deaths in a normal flu season [2] – and we are being warned that a second wave of infections could hit by Christmas. Well, infectious diseases expert, Professor Robert Booy, joins us now, he’s from Westmead Children’s Hospital. Good morning to you.

Panvax® H1N1 Vaccine packaging

Panvax® H1N1 Vaccine packaging

Professor Robert Booy: Good morning.

Mel: The testing of the swine flu vaccine: has a not enough been done? Has it been rushed through?

Booy: Not at all. We’ve got experience with making a vaccine exactly the same as this for 40 years [3], and every year we have about a 5 month period in which we change from one type to another because the strain has changed a little bit. Same thing this year: we’ve had 5 months [4], we’ve made a new vaccine, so it’s hardly any different to what we normally do [5].

Mel: So why then are these doctors in the UK – half of them saying they don’t wanna take it, because to us, sort of mere mortals – we(‘ve) have no medical knowledge – and if a doctor says, “I don’t wanna take it,” then, of course, we’re gonna go, “oh, my gosh.”

Booy: Well, there’s a wrong perception out there that the disease is mild. When people actually see the, the duality, the double-truth, that there’s a lot of people get it mildly, but we cannot predict that small number, but an important small number, who will get it severely, and it’s not just in people with an underlying medic.. medical condition. So, people need to get better informed, including doctors. [6]

Panvax® H1N1 Vaccine vial closeup showing label

Panvax® H1N1 Vaccine vial closeup showing label

Mel: So how do you.. what, what are we gonna to do, I mean, if people are worried and they hear this – and particularly if pregnant women are at risk – and if you’re pregnant you don’t, I mean, you know, most women skip coffee and alcohol, so you’re hardly gonna go and have a vaccine that might have a risk.

Booy: Well, ah, this, ah, virus is a threat not only to the pregnant mother but also to the baby, and so when pregnant mums think about that, not only their health but their baby’s health, they’ll think, well, “this is something worth having.” [7]

Mel: Well then, if I spin it ’round, what’s the worst that can happen; if you have the vaccine, and, if there are some problems with it, that it’s not a hundred percent safe – I’m not saying it isn’t, but – what’s the worst that can happen to you? What are some of the risks or the side-effects that you might get?

Booy: Sure. Well it’s fairly common to get a sore arm, some swelling and redness, but the rare things that can happen, probably in the order of one in a million, is you can get a form of paralysis, where the, the hands and the legs stop working, and you usually recover from that but not always. So that’s one thing that people worry about, but that’s a one-in-a-million risk, compared with the one-in-a-thousand risk or greater of getting a very serious side-effect from the disease. [8]

Mel: So, I guess, just to conclude on that, where do we go, I mean if we’re hearing stats out of the UK of doctors saying, at this stage, “no,” how do we make an informed decision if the vaccine’s about to come on the market in a couple of weeks?

Booy: Well everyone should research this for themselves, seek the very best information…

Mel: But where from? Where from? I mean, with all due respect, I’ve got no idea. Where would I start? [9]

Booy: Well, I, I work at the National Centre for Immunisation Research, we have a website; the Government Department of Health has a very good website; there are websites in the United States that are providing very up-to-the-date information; the Center for Diseases Control – all of those are very worthwhile places to go to. [Finishes smiling] [10]

Mel: Okay, so they’re all being a little unnecessarily worried. Quick question before we finish: [11] a piggery in southern Queensland has been placed under quarantine, um, they’re saying that the pigs’ve – that the disease is spreading through pigs. So, does this mean then that there is any risk at all to us eating pork?

Booy: (yeah) The way that pork is presented, the way that we get pork from the shop, there’s absolutely no risk. It’s actually the pigs who are at risk from us, ‘coz so many of us are infected, and so few of them have been infected, so they’re the ones who should be worried.

Mel: Okay, so you’re telling me this morning, “pork’s safe, the vaccine’s safe, it’s all gonna be okay?”

Booy: Well, I think so, I mean all vaccines have risks, and you have to weigh those things up, but the risks from the vaccine are far less than the risks from the disease. [12]

Mel: Alright. Professor, thank-you so much for that; ‘ppreciate your time this morning.

Notes and comments

[1] Results of a Healthcare Republic poll released on Monday showed 29% of the 216 (UK?) GPs who responded said they “would not opt to receive the swine flu vaccine”, and 29% were not sure if they would. Today Healthcare Republic reported on a survey conducted by the Chinese University of Hong Kong of “over 8,500 doctors, nurses and allied health professionals working in Hong Kong”, which found that “only 47.9% of respondents said that they would be willing to be vaccinated against swine flu.”

[2] It is not clear where the “50 deaths in a normal flu season” statistic comes from. According to the Australian influenza report for 18-24 July from the Department of Health and Ageing,

There are difficulties estimating the number of deaths due to influenza in Australia. Deaths coded as being due to laboratory confirmed influenza are known to underestimate the true number. Influenza may not be listed on the death certificate if it wasn’t recognised as the underlying cause. Coding of pneumonia and influenza provides an additional measure, although this will overestimate the number of deaths, as it will include other causes of pneumonia.

The median number of annual deaths in Australia, for the years 2001 to 2006, from influenza and pneumonia is 3,089. Forty Australians who died had laboratory diagnosed influenza. In 2007 (the latest year for which data has been released) there were 2,623 deaths attributed to influenza and pneumonia as the underlying cause of death. In 2007, influenza and pneumonia was the 13th leading cause of death in Australia (Source: ABS, Causes of Death 2007). Mortality figures are likely to be an underestimate due to inherent difficulties in assigning causes of death and therefore appropriate ICD codes. ABS mortality data are released two years in arrears.

Cause of death data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics under Diseases of the Respiratory System (J00-J99) for 2007 shows:

Cause of Death and ICD Code Males Females Persons
Influenza and pneumonia (J10-J18) 1160 1463 2623
Influenza due to identified influenza virus (J10) 9 11 20
Influenza, virus not identified (J11) 20 34 54
Bacterial pneumonia, not elsewhere classified (J15) 43 27 70
Pneumonia, organism unspecified (J18) 1070 1374 2444

So it seems the number of deaths due to influenza in 2007 was at least 74 persons (J10+J11), and it is expected this is a significant under-reporting. It is not clear what sort of estimate between this number and the “influenza and pneumonia” total (2623 persons), which is clearly an overestimate. The Sunrise quoted figure of “50”, however, does not appear to be particularly reasonable.

[3] Who does Booy mean by “we” here (Australia? CSL? Vaccine manufacturers generally?), and what does he mean by 40 years experience making exactly the same kind of vaccine? Surely production techniques have changed in 40 years, and one would expect, too, the resulting product.

[4] Which 5 months is Booy referring to here? Is that to the production of a trial vaccine, or to the completion of trials and commencement of general use? When is it starting? According to the CDC (Outbreak of Swine-Origin Influenza A (H1N1) Virus Infection – Mexico, March-April 2009), “The first of the 97 patients reported onset of illness (any symptom) on March 17” – that is, the outbreak started in Mexico in mid-March. Supposedly no-one knew about it before then. That was only just 5 months ago this month. At what point had “we” (again, is this Australia, CSL, or the vaccine manufacturers of the world generally) decided to mass-produce a vaccine specially for it? It is believed that the WHO went to pandemic level 6 well before it was made public knowledge, but was not until some time in April.

From CSL’s website (Our expert Dr Michael Greenberg answers questions about the H1N1 Influenza Virus Vaccine), posted at an unknown date:

Three virus isolates taken from infected patients have been sent to CSL:

A/Mexico/4108/2009 E1(4/26/09)
A/California/07/2009 E2(4/26/09)
A/California/08/2009 E2(4/26/09)

These viruses re currently arriving on site for processing. We anticipate further isolates will be sent to us as they become available.

The vial label in the footage shown on Sunrise shows “A/California/7/2009 (H1N1)” which seems to match the second isolate listed on the CSL website, and which suggests the sample is from near the end of April, which would make “5 months” at least the 26th of September 2009. Perhaps this is what is meant.

[5] What is the difference? Why are we so sure that the “usual” vaccine is safe in the first place?

[6] This appears to be a misleading statement. On one hand Booy says “we cannot predict”, but on the other goes on to talk of the prediction of the people “who will get it severely”, insinuating that the “small” number will be somehow drastic (“an important small number”), even though the observed outcomes so far have predominantly been mild, and also, in Australia, predominantly affecting people with underlying medical conditions – alarmist reports have been made elsewhere that cases have been predominately in people without existing underlying medical conditions, which, on the evidence in Australia at least, is distorted hype (if not purely alarmist propaganda).

[7] This appears to be a pure appeal to the emotion of “protecting the baby”, failing to mention flipside that if the vaccine is dangerous for the mother, it is also dangerous for the baby. In fact, it is possibly more dangerous for the baby (as are the examples of caffeine and alcohol).

[8] Booy has only pretended to answer the question. Firstly, he did not answer what is the worst that could happen? The worst that could happen is death. In the US in 1976, “about 500 cases of Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS), resulting in death from severe pulmonary complications for 25 people, were probably caused by an immunopathological reaction to the 1976 [swine flu] vaccine” (source: 1976 swine flu outbreak). Secondly, aside from the really minor effects (a sore arm) and that one supposedly one-in-a-million chance bad effect, he didn’t mention anything. Are these really the only side-effects caused by (flu) vaccines? What happens if you encounter the real flu before your “immunisation” has taken effect? For that matter, how long should that take? If people need to have two shots, what is the situation between shots?

[9] Reality check: according to her profile, Melissa Doyle is a university-educated journalist, has been a news anchor for a Prime televisions 6pm news and a political correspondent for Seven Network, among other roles. She is likely surrounded by people who have direct access to news feeds, politicians, scientists and all sorts of public figures, and yet she has “no idea” how to find information… This is the point where you should realise you are watching an infomercial, and this is just part of the script. The two main possibilities here are that Melissa Doyle is a completely incompetent airhead (does not journalism require an ability to source information?), or she is playing the fool to manipulate the audience.

[10] Here is the part where you are basically told who to trust. Of course the first port of call is to the website for one of Booy’s own organisations. Observe that grants into the hundreds of thousands of dollars are awarded for research that Booy conducts, so it cannot be said that he does not have a financial motive in the whole vaccination / immunisation story. It should be noted here that vaccination and immunisation are not the same thing – vaccines are administered ostensibly to provide immunisation, but vaccines do not provide “immunity” from disease. They have in the past been used to actually spread disease, and still do today. See, for example, Mutant Polio Virus Spreads in Nigeria, 14 August 2009:

Nigeria and most other poor nations use an oral polio vaccine because it’s cheaper, easier, and protects entire communities.

But it is made from a live polio virus – albeit weakened – which carries a small risk of causing polio for every million or so doses given. In even rarer instances, the virus in the vaccine can mutate into a deadlier version that ignites new outbreaks.

The vaccine used in the United States and other Western nations is given in shots, which use a killed virus that cannot cause polio.

So when WHO officials discovered a polio outbreak in Nigeria was sparked by the polio vaccine itself, they assumed it would be easier to stop than a natural “wild” virus.

They were wrong.

In 2007, health experts reported that amid Nigeria’s ongoing outbreak of wild polio viruses, 69 children had also been paralyzed in a new outbreak caused by the mutation of a vaccine’s virus.

Back then, WHO said the vaccine-linked outbreak would be swiftly overcome – yet two years later, cases continue to mount. They have since identified polio cases linked to the vaccine dating back as far as 2005.

This suggestion that vaccines administered by shots are safer is also of concern; earlier this year, Baxter International “accidentally” delivered 72kg of vaccine material “unintentionally” and “unknowingly” contaminated with an extremely deadly, live avian bird influenza virus to some 18 countries across Europe from a Baxter facility in Austria.

[11] After Booy delivers the list of places to look for “trusted” information, Mel here, fairly quietly, dismisses all the audience’s fears about the swine flu vaccine as a little bit of silliness and very quickly moves on to change the subject before the viewer really has a chance to think about it. The gap between the sentences was incredibly short, and shows us that Mel isn’t the incompetent airhead who wouldn’t know where to look for information. The remainder of the segment distracts the audience from thinking about the possible dangers of the flu vaccine to instead have some sympathy for the poor pigs who should be afraid of us making them sick.

[12] Yep, everthing’s gonna be alright. Please do check it for yourself (you do know how to check for yourself, don’t you? I told you where to look just a minute ago). And finishing off, just reminding you that the risks of the disease are much worse than the risks of the vaccine, even though I didn’t really explain what they are.

Seriously, though, please do some personal research. Bradfield Resident doesn’t know the answers, but knows there are a lot of questions. When it comes to the “hard science”, it really is hard (perhaps impossible) to know what to believe, who to trust, how to interpret it and so on. Science, however, is not the only angle you should be researching. Vaccines have a history that involves people, corporations, governments and lots of money. Vaccines being used to cause illness is a very plausible scenario – some of the biggest and most powerful companies in the world are pharmecutical companies… They need customers, and lots of them.

Bradfield Resident
Wednesday 26 – Thursday 27 August 2009

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Still no answers from the Government about the swine flu pandemic and vaccines

Posted by bradfieldresident on 18 August 2009

Nearly two weeks have passed since Jamie Geysen received my Questions about Pandemic H1N1 2009 influenza email, passed on by Fay Gardner, Assistant Secretary of the Health Protection Policy Branch of the Department of Health and Ageing. I have directed my question back to Fay Gardner, with related information and qestions such as:

  • An article in the Illawarra Mercury (Appin girl, 6, trials swine flu vaccine, Mon 10 Aug 09) about a young girl with a suppressed immune system whose mother was desperate to have her be part of the vaccine trials
  • Baxter exported live avian flu in an “experimental vaccine” that was not supposed to contain avian flu virus at all to 18 countries in 2009; this “weaponised” Baxter vaccine came from a BSL3 (Biosafetly Level 3) facility where such a “mistake” could not have accidentally occurred
  • What external testing will be done on the Australian vaccine?
  • Large numbers of illness, disablement and death caused by 1976 swine flu vaccinations
  • Claims that pandemic H1N1 influenza is a man-made virus, with swine, avian and human influenza components
  • Greece and the UK have announced population-wide vaccination programs – what is Australia’s plan?

The email to Ms Gardner is viewable at:

Below are some references for the contaminated Baxter vaccine incident.

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Mon 17 Aug 09 | To: Fay Gardner (DoH) | No answers from Health Ops

Posted by bradfieldresident on 17 August 2009

From: Bradfield Resident <>
Date: Monday 17 August 2009 20:58 (+10)
Subject: No answers from Health Ops [Re: Questions about Pandemic H1N1 2009 influenza]
To: Ms Fay Gardner <>
Cc:, NIR.Incident.Coordinator, NIR.Operations.Manager,

Ms Gardner,

on Tuesday 4 August 2009 you passed my questions on to “Health Ops”. Jamie Geysen replied suggesting a proper response “within the next week”.

Near two weeks have passed without any further information, nor a reply to my concern about testing on children, especially those with suppressed immune systems.

I have since found an article about Ebony Shearer, a 6 year old girl mentioned in a story I heard on television last week:

Illawarra Mercury
Appin girl, 6, trials swine flu vaccine
10/08/2009 4:00:00 AM

The article indicates that Ebony was trecently contracted whooping cough:

However, [Ebony’s] rocky beginning left her lungs forever compromised and as a result she is prone to chest infections and colds, and has only just recovered from a bout of whooping cough she picked up in January.

My recollection of the television story was that Ebony had been “immunised” (vaccinated) against whooping cough, not mentioned in this Mercury article.

The story shows the mother’s desperation

Mrs Shearer pulled her daughter out of school two weeks ago.

She wanted to protect her from the swine flu pandemic, and was so keen to see her vaccinated she was preparing to fly her to the Royal Adelaide Hospital, where adult vaccine trials began on July 22.

and comes with a very convenient feel-good quote:

”She knows she’ll be able to play with the other kids if she gets the needle,” Mrs Shearer said.

At issue is not just that vaccination offers a false sense of hope but that it is outright deceptive. Vaccination does not afford immunisation, as ably demonstrated by Ebony’s vaccination against and subsequent contraction of whooping cough, if not the millions of people worldwide who have contracted various diseases for which they had supposedly been “immunised” (actually vaccinated) against.

Baxter, another pharmecutical company producing vaccines, only earlier this year exported what was essentially a weaponised bio-weapon in the form of an “experimental vaccine” that actually contained live a avian flu virus to some 18 countries, despite the facility purportedly being a BSL3 (Biosafetly Level 3) facility where such a “mistake” could not have accidentally occurred, and which, if it had gone undetected by external testing, may have lead to a massive worldwide disaster.

What external testing will be done on this vaccine made in Australia? How is the Australian public to know what is in it and what harm it may cause?

The millions of doses of “swine flu” vaccine given in 1976 lead to large numbers of deaths, serious illness and permanent disablement of recipients in the United States – and that was from a “scare” on a military base where only one person actually dies from the virus, and that was after they had been sick and subsequently went on a forced marh, dying only after the stress of the forced march.

Why, instead of seriously investigating the sordid history of vaccines and vaccination programs worldwide, do we instead give phamecutical companies billions of dollars to poison us, infect us with diseases and ultimately kill us? Some scientists say that this current “pandemic” virus strain is almost certainly man-made, containing elements from swine, avian and human influenzas. What is the Australian Government’s scientific advisory about such claims?

I am waiting for some serious answers to my questions abot the contents of the vaccine currently under trial, and any modification to or alternate vaccine that will (apparently) be suppled by CSL or any other company to be used in Australia, as are a number of my contacts. Other countries have announced population-wide vaccination programs (Greece and UK as examples). What is Australia’s plan?

Bradfield Resident, NSW
Monday 17 August 2009

Note: this discussion is publicised at

Quoted text:
Tue 11 Aug 09 | To: Jamie Geysen (DoH) | Re: Questions about Pandemic H1N1 2009 influenza
Tue 04 Aug 09 | From: Jamie Geysen (DoH) | Re: Questions about Pandemic H1N1 2009 influenza
Fri 31 Jul 09 | To: Fay Gardner (DoH) | Questions about Pandemic H1N1 2009 influenza

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